Barbara Jones Brown & Richard Turley
SAT, AUG 5, 2023 | 7:30-9:00 pm MDT
156 years ago the most horrific travesty ever committed by Mormon Saints occurred. Why did it happen and how can we ensure it never does again?
IN-PERSON GATHERING:
Bell Hall
389 East 1st Ave.
Salt Lake City, UT 84103
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Thanks to Lisa Cannon for sharing her home and historic Danish Lutheran church with us. Parking is found throughout the neighborhood. There is no parking lot for the church. Enter through the main front door of the church at the gate on 1st Ave and up to the top of the steps.
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THE CONVERSATION:
On September 11, 1857, a group of Mormon settlers in southwest Utah used false promises of protection to coax a party of California-bound emigrants from their encircled wagons and massacre them. The slaughter left the corpses of some one hundred men, women, and children strewn across a highland valley called the Mountain Meadows. In Vengeance Is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath, historians Richard E. Turley Jr. and Barbara Jones Brown examine more deeply than ever before the massacre and its fallout. Richard and Barbara will talk about what they’ve learned from their combined total of more than forty years of researching and writing about arguably the most horrific episode in Utah and Mormon history. They’ll also talk about why it’s important to understand and learn lessons from the Mountain Meadows Massacre, and how Latter-day Saints and descendants of massacre perpetrators can seek peace and healing of the crime through seeking reconciliation with descendants of victims and any whom they deem their enemy.
ABOUT BARBARA:
Barbara Jones Brown is the company director of Signature Books Publishing. Previously she was the executive director of the Mormon History Association, historical director of Better Days 2020, and content editor of the award-winning Massacre at Mountain Meadows (2008). She is co-author of the book’s sequel, Vengeance Is Mine, The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath. Brown earned a Master’s degree in American history from the University of Utah and a Bachelor’s degree in journalism and English from Brigham Young University.
ABOUT RICHARD:
Richard E. Turley Jr. was a long-time historian for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City, Utah, and a co-author of Massacre at Mountain Meadows. He is the recipient of numerous awards, including the American Historical Association’s Herbert Feis Award and the Historic Preservation Medal from the Daughters of the American Revolution. Turley also represented relatives of the Mountain Meadows Massacre victims in their successful petition of the federal government to grant National Historic Landmark status for the atrocity site.
EXPLORE BEFORE WE MEET:
- Vengeance is Mine: The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Its Aftermath
- Writer-historians left no stone unturned in telling the rest of the story of the Mountain Meadows Massacre
- Faith Matters podcast: Reckoning with Mountain Meadows
- The Mountain Meadows Massacre, Pt. 1: Too Late, Too Late
- The Mountain Meadows Massacre, Pt. 2: Blood, Blood, Blood
- Mormon Land podcast: The Mountain Meadows Massacre: What Did Brigham Young Know and When Did He Know It?
- Church News podcast: ‘And the truth shall set you free’: Historians discuss the Mountain Meadows Massacre and its aftermath
- Massacre at Mountain Meadows
- Mountain Meadows Massacre: The Andrew Jenson and David H Morris Collections (BYU Studies)
- Mountain Meadows Massacre: Collected Legal Papers, Two-Volume Set
CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE RECORDED ZOOM CONVERSATION
Please Note:
1. Barbara and Rick invited us to reach out to victims of the Mountain Meadows Massacre and apologize. When asked how to go about this, Barbara gave me an email that she set up: MMMreconciliation@gmail.com
She will then send them on to the victims.
2. There is a place within this recording where I interrupt a friend’s question. He was at the back of the room and began by asking, “Raise your hands if you’ve been to the Mountain Meadows Massacre site?” I had been anxious to ask a question related to something one of the authors said that was very important to me and I broke in, and to my immediate horror said something like, “let’s hold that, I have a more important question.”
Tom was gracious then and afterward. And while I made sure he was given a chance to field his full and very good and important question not long after, I felt terrible. I apologized at the end of the evening to the group and apologized to Tom personally. I apologized again to him and the hosts by text later. It was one of those times where as soon as it came out of my mouth I regretted it. It’s one of those times where I just can’t believe I have either the hubris or cluelessness to act in such an unChristian way.
I could have edited out my mistake but it is a “good” bad example of what not to do when you feel like you have something important to say but want to also encourage others to share what they feel is important and learn from them.
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